![]() So that must've been really hard.ĬHAKRABARTI: So, you know what's interesting is that your experience of empathetic joy that led you to call us begins with the story of Gina. But she did pass away, you said.ĬHAKRABARTI: Oh, yeah. And as two people who were quite young and dealing with that sort of thing, it really brought us together.ĬHAKRABARTI: So you really were there for each other in the time of, sounds like both your both mutual, greatest need. But also I was dealing with my own unrelated, but related to cancer decisions for myself. And I stuck by her through a lot of those kind of rounds of ups and downs. And so then what happened after that?ĪMELIE: So she was kind of in and out of treatment eventually for years. And so, of course, my heart went out to her and I reached out again, I believe, over text.ĬHAKRABARTI: Okay. And what brought you together? What allowed for that reconnection?ĪMELIE: So I had seen on, I believe it was Facebook or social media, that she had been diagnosed with leukemia. And I went to a different high school, so we drifted apart a little bit, but loosely stayed in touch and reconnected again in our twenties.ĬHAKRABARTI: Reconnected again. We were in junior high together, which is seventh and eighth grade. When did you first meet?ĪMELIE: So we met as kids. So I'm wondering if you could just start by telling us the story of your friend Gina. And you left us a really beautiful message, and I wanted to share it more broadly with On Point listeners, Amelie. MEGHNA CHAKRABARTI: We put a call out to listeners a few days ago to share stories about empathetic joy with us. ( Transcript: A Listener Shares Her Story Of Sympathetic Joy Author of The War for Kindness: Building Empathy in a Fractured World. Director of the Stanford Social Neuroscience Lab. ![]() Jamil Zaki, professor of psychology at Stanford University. Principal Investigator of Emotions, Motivation, Behavior and Relationships at the (EMBeR) Lab. Shelly Gable, professor and chair of psychological brain sciences at the University of California, Santa Barbara. GuestsĮve Ekman, meditation teacher and a contemplative social scientist designing tools to support emotional awareness. Today, On Point: The science of empathetic joy and how we can experience more of it. "And yet, I don’t think they realize how they can apply it in their own lives.” “When you ask people to report on the empathetic experiences that they’ve had, they resonate with other people’s positive feelings just as much as their negative ones, if not more," Jamil Zaki says. ![]() Seemingly everywhere.īut can we also learn to share in each other’s joy? Facebook Email Friends re-unite with a picnic at Okahu Bay on Octoin Auckland, New Zealand.
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